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Post by theweapon2 on Dec 6, 2015 23:47:20 GMT -5
I've just read something crazy on the internet, adobe is going to shutdown flash permanently soon maybe next year, I find this very hard to believe, All Flash games and movies will not work if they shut adobe flash player down, here's the link for more - www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hpUFrMU_VAIf The Program is still not removed yet then i may be wrong Internet Entertainment is destroyed |
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Post by Wade Monroe / MaelstormM on Dec 7, 2015 0:25:03 GMT -5
I'd say there's a bit more to it than that, but yeah, Adobe does get their name in the news a bunch for flash. But while flash "player" may die, Flash itself will just slowly change into another thing altogether like most browser based things are doing these days. It'll most likely just turn into a Java or HTML5 based program (export options are already in it) while flash emulators provide support for old movies and games. But until Adobe themselves announce their plans for it, it's just software business as usual.
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Post by theweapon2 on Dec 7, 2015 1:44:03 GMT -5
So, You're saying its not a big deal then? I mean sure its a big change and all but this soon? screw that! also, i'm curious when you said "Flash Emulators", what's that?
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Post by Wade Monroe / MaelstormM on Dec 7, 2015 13:17:07 GMT -5
While it's not good news, I wouldn't view it as crippling news for it. There's issues found with all the software out there, Java, Windows, iOS, etc. It's nothing new, though you see adobe's more than you'd want to see is the issue. However, just because you don't see the others as much also doesn't mean they don't have vulnerabilities. Government's even use exploits they find to track activity on Facebook and other places they can when companies won't give them a backdoor in so who knows how many are out there.
A flash emulator is just a emulator aimed at flash files. Just like how people make flash based emulators to run NES games on the web or emulators that allow older windows games to run on newer windows computers. Even if Chrome, Firefox, etc outright blocked flash apps from running there'd still be ways to run the flash files via other means. And this kinda stuff isn't anything new or end of the world level news, the only thing that really matters is if Adobe themselves say they're outright dropping flash which they haven't from what I've seen.
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Post by theweapon2 on Dec 20, 2015 18:48:31 GMT -5
So you use a flash emulator for all of your flash related movies and games on this site then? you know for MMNR and your RA legends stuff
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Post by Wade Monroe / MaelstormM on Dec 21, 2015 1:46:08 GMT -5
Only would need a emulator if flash really did die (and probably wouldn't be a good one out there unless flash dies), til then shouldn't need to worry about it.
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Post by theweapon2 on Jul 27, 2017 0:50:21 GMT -5
Adobe just announced they will remove flash from all browsers in 2020, how are you going to make your animation and games now? Also need to find some way to run these games in 2020, know any good programs?
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Post by Wade Monroe / MaelstormM on Jul 28, 2017 13:41:01 GMT -5
In the grand scheme of things nothing really changes. This will just encourage people to migrate to other scripts such as HTML5, Java, Unity, C++, etc. When actionscript 1.0 became 2.0 which then became 3.0 had to jump through hoops relearning stuff and this will be no different. Adobe Animate already has export options for other formats too so even that isn't a deal breaker. Dreamweaver already has a bunch of stuff for the other web-based codes, so they may even just roll Animate (Flash) over from actionscript to Javascript similarly.
The important part is that the line of thought underlying the mechanics doesn't change. The syntax may change from program to program but envisioning what your end goal is does not.
On my end of the stick, the only things I really still had planned for flash before migrating to other formats anyhow was Mega Man Next Gaia and Mega Man X Next Remix. Roll Next I wanted to be 3D and Adobe really dropped the ball on that even with Stage3D so at that point I was gonna need to suck it up and move on anyhow.
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Also to note is emulators similar to ones you see for old game consoles and windows versions. Even though Adobe may drop it, the community (some of which have waaaaaaaaaay more invested in Flash than I do) are all but guaranteed to pick up the slack.
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Post by theweapon2 on Jul 28, 2017 15:08:52 GMT -5
So are you still going to make your games even when adobe shuts down flash completely? sure i'm asking a question that's already answered but i have to make sure so i don't have to regret not asking you
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Post by Wade Monroe / MaelstormM on Jul 28, 2017 21:49:47 GMT -5
Yup, still have every intention on chugging along regardless of Adobe.
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Post by theweapon2 on Jul 29, 2017 11:08:26 GMT -5
Here's a good question for you, when you migrate everything to a different program be it HTML5, Unity, Adobe Animate, etc, Can you still animate with sprites and actionscript?
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Post by Wade Monroe / MaelstormM on Jul 29, 2017 21:34:25 GMT -5
Going by: blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2017/07/adobe-flash-update.htmlIt's a good ponder, but until Adobe actually announces their plans for Actionscript one I can't give a answer too yet. I know Adobe is still keeping Animate (formerly Flash) around, and they seem to be saying that it's just Flash Player that's being killed off given the rise of other standardized formats fulfilling the role Flash used to. So kinda boils down to are they going to incorporate for example HTML5 into Animate instead of Actionscript or keep Actionscript around but make it compile into a different language for the final product. Until they give a concrete answer on that I can't say. |
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Post by Wade Monroe / MaelstormM on Aug 3, 2017 10:08:13 GMT -5
While fishing around at work, found this thread forums.adobe.com/message/9723938 which at least for now confirms the prior is just about Flash Player dying, actionscript shall live on in Adobe Air. For changes and shuffles, but sal' good. Also increasingly eyeballing Unity since a friend at work keeps raving about it. Ponder ponder ponder... |
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Post by theweapon2 on Aug 4, 2017 2:38:29 GMT -5
Ok, Is unity going to be the new Flash Professional? Will it have a feature where you can do sprite animation?
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Post by Wade Monroe / MaelstormM on Aug 4, 2017 19:45:14 GMT -5
Unity's a whole separate animal, but as a game maker program it can do all the expected stuff. When it comes to 3D though from what I can tell it's light-year's easier to deal with than Flash. So for 2D games, tentatively my Flash projects will become Adobe Air projects while 3D eyes Unity. Given this will all be years down the road though, perhaps Adobe will bring the learning curve and accessible of Stage3D of Flash down and entice people to stick with them. Like if Adobe Animate (flash) would let you organize and play with 3D objects on it's stage as easy as it lets you play with MovieClips and draw vector graphics it would be absolutely amazing... but they don't... at least not yet.
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